Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei on Being an Underdog, AI Safety, and Economic Inequality

Hanging on the wall of Anthropic's offices in San Francisco in early May, a stone's throw from the conference room where CEO Dario Amodei would shortly sit for an interview with TIME, was a framed meme. Its single panel showed a giant robot ransacking a burning city. Underneath, the image's tongue-in-cheek title: Deep learning is hitting a wall. That's a refrain you often hear from AI skeptics, who claim that rapid progress in artificial intelligence will soon taper off. Another points to the devastated city: "wall."