The Good Robot Podcast: featuring Abeba Birhane

Hosted by Eleanor Drage and Kerry Mackereth, The Good Robot is a podcast which explores the many complex intersections between gender, feminism and technology. In this episode Eleanor and Kerry speak to Abeba Birhane, senior research fellow at Mozilla, about how cognition extends beyond the brain, why why we need to turn questions like "why aren't there enough black women in computing" on their head and actually transform computing cultures, and why human behaviour is a complex adaptive system that can't always be modelled computationally. Abeba Birhane is a cognitive scientist researching human behaviour, social systems, and responsible and ethical Artificial Intelligence (AI). She recently finished her PhD, where she explored the challenges and pitfalls of automating human behaviour through critical examination of existing computational models and audits of large scale datasets. She is currently a Senior Fellow in Trustworthy AI at Mozilla Foundation.